2018-03-02 Mayors Meeting1
Mayors’ Meeting
March 2, 2018
9:02 a.m.
Present: Lewis County Commissioner Edna J. Fund, Commissioner Robert C. “Bobby” Jackson,
Commissioner Gary Stamper, state Director for the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA)
Rural Development Kirk Pearson, USDA Single Family Housing Program Director Trudy Teter, USDA
Multi-Family Housing Program Director Mary Traxler, USDA Community Programs Specialist Koni
Reynolds, USDA Business Program Specialist Jeffrey Peterson, USDA Public Information Officer Philip
Eggman, Wes Anderson of the Washington State Department of Transportation (WSDOT), Chehalis City
Manager Jill Anderson, Public Information Officer / Trooper Will Finn of the Washington State Patrol,
Southwest Washington Outreach Director Dena Horton of Sen. Cantwell’s office, Centralia Port
Commissioner Peter Lahmann, Morton Mayor Dan Mortensen, Pe Ell Mayor Lonnie Willey, Winlock
Mayor Don Bradshaw, Centralia Mayor Lee Coumbs, Toledo Mayor Steve Dobosh, Centralia City
Manager Rob Hill, District Director Shari Hildreth of U.S. Rep. Herrera Beutler’s office, Deputy District
Director Pam Peiper of Rep. Herrera Beutler’s office, Vader Mayor Ken Smith, Port of Chehalis
Commissioner Randy Mueller, Tamara Greenwell of WSDOT, Napavine Mayor Pro Tem Jim Haslett
Guests: Various members of the public and media
Recorder: Rieva Lester
Former state Sen. Kirk Pearson, the newly-appointed state Director for the United States Department
of Agriculture (USDA) Rural Development, introduced himself and gave an overview of his work
experiences. He discussed broadband and opioid abuse and indicated that in 2016, there were 64,000
deaths related to opioid overdoses nationwide.
USDA Single Family Housing Program Director Trudy Teter, USDA Multi-Family Housing Program
Director Mary Traxler, USDA Community Programs Specialist Koni Reynolds and USDA Business
Program Specialist Jeffrey Peterson gave a PowerPoint presentation on various grants, loans and
programs available for rural housing and businesses. (Slides included.)
Morton Mayor Mortensen said Morton does not have large amounts of broadband data available. He
said even the hospital struggles with downloading information.
Pe Ell Mayor Lonnie Willey said the city has CenturyLink and struggles with connection speed.
Chehalis Mayor Dennis Dawes said the county seems to have a lot of fiber optic lines running through it,
but not connecting it. He said there needs to be more competition, which would improve service.
Vader Mayor Ken Smith said Vader also is served by CenturyLink. He echoed the other mayors’
concerns.
Centralia City Manager Rob Hill said Centralia is grateful for the service it has but would love to see the
holes plugged and service expanded. He said the region is not given the attention it’s due.
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Napavine Mayor Pro Tem Jim Hassler introduced himself.
Winlock Mayor Don Bradshaw said Winlock is working with ToledoTel to improve Internet services.
Centralia Mayor Lee Coumbs said the area seems to be 10 years behind in broadband technology.
Toledo Mayor Steve Dobosh said he invited Dale Merten of ToledoTel to discuss Toledo’s broadband
service.
Port of Chehalis Commissioner Randy Mueller said he understands that Lewis County is the last to be
invested in as a matter of economics. Randy said the port is working with others to provide “dark fiber,”
infrastructure from which others can build.
Commissioner Stamper said his rural area has no Internet service. He said infrastructure is even more
important these days because of the lack of timber dollars available. He said the county is at risk of
being a “fly-over” county. He commended the PUD and TDS for their efforts to make improvements. He
said the county needs to move forward in order to be an attractive place to live and work.
Sen. Pearson said President Trump and U.S. Secretary of Agriculture Sonny Perdue want to empower
the rural areas.
Commissioner Fund said she spoke to a family that chose not to locate in Mossyrock because they could
not telecommute.
Public comment
Winlock resident Robert Watson likened broadband to lamp oil of days past. He said those who chose
to stick with lamp oil did not continue to exist.
ToledoTel COO Dale Merten said ToledoTel has worked with the USDA to provide service to area
homes. He said ToledoTel has fiber in Morton due to its partnership with the PUD. He said it cost $7,800
to provide service to each home. He said ToledoTel, Rainier Connect and the PUD have worked together
to serve the smaller communities. He spoke of the “Last Mile.”
Mayor Dobosh said people are moving to Toledo because of its fiber. ToledoTel COO Dale Merten said
Toledo saw 30 new homes built in 2017, and the homeowners indicated they selected the city because
of its broadband capabilities.
Onalaska resident Harry Bhagwandin said fiber infrastructure is paramount. He said the rest of the
county could see the type of growth Toledo has experienced. He asked about the $7,800. Dale Merten
said the figure reflects the costs to ToledoTel. He used Morton as an example of a success story:
ToledoTel routed from the PUD to the medical center, which then applied for reimbursement for its
costs.
Lewis County PUD Manager Dan Kay said ToledoTel is the “Last Mile” provider and the PUD is the
“Middle Mile” provider. He said laws prevent the PUD from providing broadband service itself. Dan said
high-speed Internet is becoming a basic necessity.
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Commissioner Jackson discussed a return trip from Texas during which a fellow airline passenger from
Toledo discussed his ability to run several businesses from his home because of its broadband services.
Sen. Pearson suggested having the USDA’s field representative from Vancouver attend the monthly
Mayors’ Meetings.
Former County Commissioner Lee Grose said the nitty gritty is that the county needs some
“cloverleaves” to provide connectivity to the residents that live along the “superhighway.” Lee
commended the efforts of Wave, which provided service to the remote areas. Lee discussed the red
tape holding up plans for a sewer facility in Packwood. He said the government needs to focus on how
to facilitate, not regulate.
Winlock resident Matthew Conrow said he and his wife spearheaded an effort to secure broadband for
Winlock. He said the lack of service is more than an annoyance, he said service is an economic lifeblood.
He commended ToledoTel for its efforts and said Winlock begged ToledoTel to save Winlock residents.
He said high costs prevented ToledoTel from being able to serve Winlock. Matt said high-speed Internet
is needed so kids can do research for school and laid-off employees to go online for training, etc. He said
all the little towns are being left behind in the world of broadband.
Former County Commissioner Ron Averill discussed service providers opting to ignore areas in Lewis
County because of the lack of residents to use those services. He said he would be interested in speaking
with the USDA about ways to draw visitors to the outlying areas.
Theresa Charboneau of Winlock, who has a small mobile home park, said the lack of access to
broadband is a safety concern. She said CenturyLink had provided service but that it cut the cables to
homes in her park as various residents moved out.
Commissioner Jackson left at 10:30 a.m.
Lewis County Public Health and Social Services Deputy Director J.P. Anderson and Lewis County Public
Health and Social Services Community Health Services and Contracts Coordinator Katie Strozyk spoke
about the opioid epidemic. Katie said there were 34 fatal overdoses in Lewis County between 2012 and
2016, a rate that mirrors the state rate. Katie said the county has five outpatient services and one detox
facility. Katie said EMS is equipped with Naloxone. She said law enforcement also has been equipped
with Naloxone. Katie said a newly-formed task force is focusing on medication storage and disposal as
well as syringe disposal.
J.P. Anderson discussed his work with the local Drug Court program. JP said the community rises to any
opportunities presented. Sen. Pearson asked to be invited to any future meetings.
Mayor Dawes asked whether there would be a liability if an officer administered Naloxone but that the
overdose still proved fatal. Katie said the state has the Good Samaritan Act that would protect the
individual. Mayor Dawes discussed a recent surgery after which he was prescribed 90 pain killers. Katie
said the state Department of Health is pushing for a prescription monitoring program.
JP discussed working with pharmacies, etc. to combat opioid abuse.
Sen. Pearson invited the audience to visit the USDA’s website at www.usda.gov/topics/opioids for
information about opioid abuse in rural America.
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Shari Hildreth of Rep. Herrera Beutler’s office said Rep. Herrera Beutler is keenly interested in
broadband. She also said President Trump wants to earmark funding for infrastructure. She urged
individuals to contact legislative assistant Anna Breen (anna.breen@mail.house.gov) with any concerns
regarding broadband or opioids.
Dena Horton of Sen. Cantwell’s Office discussed the need to prevent overprescribing. She said the
expansion of Medicaid has allowed individuals to seek treatment. She said cuts to Medicaid would put
that in jeopardy. Dena said Sen. Cantwell also is keenly interested in affordable housing.
Meeting adjourned at 10:46 a.m.