2017-11-01 Meeting with Budget DepartmentBudget meeting
November 1, 2017
3:05 p.m.
Present: Commissioner Stamper, Commissioner Fund, Commissioner Jackson, Becky Butler, Steve
Walton
Guests: Justyna Tomtas, Anthony Ahrens, Matt Brock
Recorder: Rieva Lester and Becky Butler
Becky Butler said Dianne Dorey provided a recap of the topics
she had discussed with the Board.
Becky discussed the steps the Assessor’s Office has taken to
capture new construction within the county as well as in the
cities. She also discussed upcoming changes to FMLA that
could further complicate coverage during times medical leave
is taken.
Steve Walton discussed the training needed to reach the
appraiser IV position.
Becky said contingency language could be included.
Anthony Ahrens asked how long the training takes. Becky said full accreditation would take roughly four
years. She said that was why Dianne Dorey had initially asked for funding to hire someone who already
had gone through the training.
Commissioner Stamper said he had concerns about the position. Becky said other factors beyond new
construction must be weighed, including the fact that Dianne is denying leave, performing work herself,
and that morale also suffers.
Commissioner Fund said it’s not a luxury for cities to turn in their permits, it’s mandated by law. She said
she’d like to know what is being done to tell the cities they need to turn those permits in.
The group discussed the training needs for new hires in the Assessor’s Office.
Commissioner Jackson said the same problem of missed deadlines could take place in 2018.
Becky said her understanding is that state law doesn’t require the new construction to be picked up but
that revals are required.
Dianne and Marci Miess joined the meeting at 3:50 p.m.
Commissioner Stamper asked Dianne if the new position would mean new construction would get
picked up.
FOLLOW UP
Lease agreement with finalized
lease amount
Utilities list from Facilities
Complete agreement for
$100,000 contribution
Dianne said there have been problems getting the permit information from the cities. She said Change
Finder has helped identify new construction.
Dianne said a larger staff would allow for the reval deadline to be made and then allow for all of the new
construction to be picked up.
Becky asked if permit information – such as when appraisers discover an owner has performed work
without a permit – is shared with Community Development. Dianne said the information is available if
anyone asks for it but that her office doesn’t generally “police” properties.
Commissioner Jackson asked if the new position would allow the Assessor’s Office to pick up more new
construction. Dianne said she believed it would. She said she would be willing to provide quarterly
updates to the board.
Dianne said the more rural areas aren’t as forthcoming with permitting information. She said she will be
attending the Nov. 3 Mayors’ Meeting to discuss the needs regarding permits.
Commissioner Fund asked what the county would see with the addition of a new position.
Commissioner Jackson, Dianne and Marci left at 4:23 p.m.
Commissioner Jackson returned at 4:26 p.m.
Becky said the county could hire a consultant to review the organizational structure, possibly finding
efficiencies. She said Erik Martin recently hired a consultant to review organizational structure for
roughly $7,500.
Commissioner Jackson said his view on the possibility of a county manager has changed.
Becky said a consultant could review the BOCC structures and identify the various changes the county
has seen. She said she read case studies that looked at restructuring, finding savings, etc.
Danette York and former Commissioner Ron Averill joined the meeting at 4:39 p.m.
The commissioners said they would further discuss the Assessor’s request on Nov. 6 and the county
manager position on Nov. 8.
Danette said she and Ron Averill estimated what the cost would be to provide funding for Nutrition. She
said Nutrition would need $17,168 and Enrichment would need $111,418 to make their budgets balance
in 2018.
Becky said the law allows the county to rent facilities at a lower rate to nonprofits that help the poor
and infirm.
Ron said the senior centers need to reach out to citizens and to also make sure its visitors know what
the Nutrition meals cost. He said the city of Toledo doesn’t want the senior center building back.
The group discussed federal withholding, Social Security, etc.
Rieva Lester left at 5:10 p.m.
The group discussed lease options and a timeline for the lease as well as concerns about utility transfer
costs, especially for the Twin City Center, which is connected to the Fairgrounds.
Ron asked Steve and Doug to provide utility transfer information so the groups could move forward on
transferring utilities.
Becky stated staff was working on it.
Becky asked if the direction from the Board was to move forward with the $100,000 for 2018. The
commissioners stated they would like to move forward with that agreement.
Commissioner Jackson made a motion to move forward with a $100,000 contribution to cover the
lease costs, utilities and start-up Nutrition program costs for the Lewis County Seniors’ Nutrition
program, with an opener for additional funding for nutritional program costs during the 2018 budget
year if needed. Commissioner Fund seconded. Motion passed 3-0.
Ron discussed concerns with start-up costs.
Meeting adjourned at 5:39 p.m.