2024-10-09 All-day budget meetingsAll-Day Budget Meetings
October 9, 2024
9:01 a.m.
Present: Commissioner Brummer, Commissioner Pollock, Commissioner Swope, County Manager Ryan
Barrett, Becky Butler, Scott Tinney, Marni Larson, Sherri Dokken, Meja Handlen, Jenn Libby-Jones, Kate
Chatterton, Arny Davis, Shelly Stewart, Rodney Reynolds, Linda Mastin, Jonathan Meyer, Brittani
Halverson, Sheriff Rob Snaza, Undersheriff Kevin Engelbertson, Chief Chris Sweet, Judge Andrew
Toynbee, Court Administrator Susie Palmateer, Accounting Specialist Stacey Werner, Court
Administrator Shad Hail, Ricolena Anders, BJ Kuykendall, Rachel Churchill, Grace Jimenez
Citizens Budget Committee members: Bill Serrahn, Tim Wood, Paul Crowner, Jerry Villareal
Guest(s): Mitchell Roland, unnamed guest
Recorder: Rieva Lester
Public comment: None.
Commissioner Pollock made a motion to add a Parks and Fair budget update at 4 p.m. Commissioner
Swope seconded. Motion passed 3-0.
Clerk’s Office (9:01 a.m. start time)
Elected and representative(s) present: Clerk Scott Tinney and Deputy Director Marni Larson
Details: Scott Tinney said he was able to meet the 5 percent expenditure reduction by leaving one
position vacant and through attrition, with a senior employee switching from full-time to roughly .60
FTE. Scott noted that the Clerk’s Office cut travel and miscellaneous expenditures budgets significantly
the previous year for the 2024 budget.
Scott noted that his office has embraced improved technology to improve efficiencies, such as a recent
move to electronic documentation.
Scott noted that his office was short-handed due to illness, injuries, etc., every month the previous year,
creating a strain on existing staff.
Scott outlined the steep cuts made to revenues the Clerk’s Office receives, noting that the state
Legislature gutted the amount of assessed legal financial obligations (LFOs) criminals had been ordered
to pay. He said the Blake decision has played a huge role in the revenue decreases.
Treasurer’s Office (9:31 a.m. start time)
Elected and representative(s) present: Treasurer Arny Davis, Banking & Investment Officer Rodney
Reynolds, Chief Deputy Treasurer Shelly Stewart
Details: Arny Davis outlined challenges his office would face if it were required to reduce staffing. He
said he would have to cut a counter position and direct the Banking and Investment Officer to stop his
work on investment income.
Arny said implementation of a new tax software system will increase staffing needs.
Arny said he feels new construction revenues are continuing to grow.
Becky Butler explained funding the county receives from Tacoma Power and timber sales.
At 10:01 a.m., Commissioner Brummer recessed the meeting until 10:30 a.m.
Prosecuting Attorney’s Office (10:30 a.m. start time)
Elected and representative present: Prosecuting Attorney Jonathan Meyer and Office Administrator
Brittani Halverson
Details: Jonathan Meyer discussed savings in response to a law clerk and an investigator who are
attending law school and will be able to work under Rule 9.
Jonathan said costs associated with his office’s case management system will increase substantially in
2025. He noted that his office has coordinated with the Sheriff’s Office to ensure the county isn’t paying
twice for the storage of body camera footage.
Jonathan shared the following budgetary details:
• PA’s Office will realize some cost savings due to an upcoming retirement.
• Working with legislators in an effort to increase reimbursement rate for case processing fees.
• Working with legislators to increase reimbursement rate for defense counsel.
• Interpreter costs have increased substantially.
• The state’s proposed caseload standards would leads to cuts in case filings.
• The $136,000 reduction to the 2025 budget is feasible.
• The state has done away with the Crime Victim Assessment Fee, which has slashed the offset for
crime victim support.
Assessor’s Office (10:56 a.m. start time)
Elected and representative present: Assessor Ross Nielson and Chief Deputy Lynn Richard
Details: Assessor Ross Nielson said his office is leaving a vacant position unfilled in order to meet the
budgetary reduction. He said further cuts could affect the process for new construction.
Ross said he is requesting additional funding for maintenance fees and professional services. He noted
that there will be an overlap on software as the office switches to new technology.
Ross said he is requesting additional funds to contract with an individual to review commercial
appraisals.
Lynn Richard said preliminary totals show that new construction is down roughly $35 million since the
previous year.
Ross explained how valuations are set. He also discussed the implementation of new software, which
will provide savings once rolled out, and the process by which an individual would be able to become
and industrial appraiser.
Coroner’s Office (11:30 a.m. start time)
Elected and representative present: Coroner Warren McLeod and Chief Deputy Director Samantha
Schaffer
Details: Becky noted that Warren has withdrawn his requests for additional funding for positions.
Warren said he is requesting additional funding to cover professional services, such as toxicology tests,
x-rays, next-of-kin searches, external views and autopsies.
Warren said the county has save several thousand dollars by providing its own transportation for
decedent removals.
Warren outlined accreditation and certification requirements.
At 11:48 a.m., Commissioner Brummer recessed the meeting until 1:30 p.m.
Sheriff’s Office (1:31 p.m. start time)
Elected and representative present: Sheriff Rob Snaza and Undersheriff Kevin Engelbertson
Details: Undersheriff Kevin Engelbertson said the Sheriff’s Office will face a $1 million shortfall if it is
required to reduce its budget as requested. He said the department would be forced to cut eight
positions, including a detective position, two deputy positions and five corrections officer positions.
Undersheriff Engelbertson said the Sheriff’s Office could potentially save $100,000 at the jail through
Medicaid reimbursements.
Undersheriff Engelbertson and Sheriff Snaza discussed costs associated with 24-hour life-saving care
provided by Naphcare. They noted that the Sheriff’s Office is looking at using opioid settlement funds to
cover the costs.
Sheriff Snaza said there are 10 vacancies in the jail and four vacancies in patrol. He discussed employee
burnout caused by the overtime needed to cover shifts.
Sheriff Snaza said he will gather data about the services Naphcare provides.
Sheriff Snaza discussed liabilities with having reserve officers patrolling on their own.
Undersheriff Engelbertson and Sheriff Snaza discussed the benefits the Cradlepoint additions have
made.
Sheriff Snaza said the Sheriff’s Office pays $700,000 annually for 911 services. He noted that passage of
the proposed 911 tax would offset a bulk of that cost.
Superior Court (2:30 p.m. start time)
Elected and representative(s) present: Judge Andrew Toynbee, Court Administrator Susie Palmateer,
Accounting Specialist Stacey Werner
Details: Susie Palmateer said the budget limitation would require Superior Court cuts totaling roughly
$87,700. Susie noted most of Superior Court’s costs are outside of the office’s controls.
Susie and Judge Toynbee discussed the costs associated with family law. They noted that they have
selected a new court commissioner.
Juvenile (3:15 p.m. start time)
Office representatives present: Court Administrator Shad Hail and Probation Manager Ricolena Anders,
Office Manager Susan Wickert, Detention Manager Vanessa Conwell
Details: Shad Hail said meeting the budget limitations would force Juvenile to lose two probation officer
positions, one of which could be funded through ARPA dollars.
Shad noted that while costs have skyrocketed over the past 10 years, the state has not increased
funding.
Shad outlined the following:
• One of the most senior probation officers just retired and another is retiring
• Several other senior employees have retired or are retiring
• New staff is inexperienced
• Proposed budget cuts would
o Increase risk and liability exposure
o Decrease ability to meet statutory obligations
o Decrease ability to respond and force reactive responses instead of proactive responses
o Increase staff burnout and create retention challenges
Parks and Rec / Fair (4:02 p.m. start time)
Department representatives present: Parks and Recreation Administrator BJ Kuykendall and Business
Manager Rachel Churchill
Details: BJ Kuykendall provided a quick overview of the sites the parks department oversees.
BJ outlined the following:
• Outside partnerships and the use of park hosts have helped Parks and Rec save costs.
• 4-H barn will be completed in 2025.
• Engineering for equestrian center will be completed in 2025.
• Use of volunteer work helps the fair keep costs low.
• Carnival, gate admission and venders provide the bulk of the fair’s outside revenue.
BJ outlined the following cuts to meet the proposed budget limitations:
• Eliminate the fair manager position and a ground tech I position to meet proposed budget cuts.
• Reduce extra help for fair work.
• Eliminate overtime.
• Reduce supply expenses by 25 percent.
• Reduce repairs and maintenance by $8,500.
• Reduce miscellaneous costs by $6,000.
• Reduce Motor Pool to a $10,000 level.
• Collect credit card fees.
BJ noted that the ambitious vision to expand to year-round camping at the fairgrounds did not come to
fruition.
Meeting adjourned at 4:35 p.m.